Car Salesmen suck

I must wonder whether or not car salesmen suck as much off the lot as they do on the lot.

I had one salesman this weekend argue with me for more than ten minutes when he wanted me to sign a hand-written paper that had a dollar amount written and "I will buy", saying that he wanted a commitment. What the hell? He wanted it in writing when we already knew what I wanted to pay and he just sat there for more than ten minutes arguing with me fruitlessly. After finally NOT signing the paper he managed to go get the price without any problems whatsoever. And then the price he brought back was more than 25% more than I told him I wanted to spend right off the bat. At that point I walked out.

I got this "excellent" service from a man named "Andy Griffith" at Sands Kia in Surprise, AZ.

I was also the victim of a bait-and-switch scam this weekend. That was entirely disappointing. I should've realized it was going on before I'd wasted my time coming down. The funny thing was that I'd been down to the dealer and when it wasn't there I'd looked at everything else they had, which is exactly the point of the bait-and-switch scam... I turned down everything else and left. But then when I called to see if they had found the car yet, two different people told me that it was there, so I played the part of the clueless consumer and showed up at the dealership again and found that the car was probably "in the shop" which was closed. They could neither open the service shop, nor actually confirm that it was in there. The best that the salesman offered to do to look it up was to look at the online posting for what they had in stock and tried to convince me that I was actually looking for a similar vehicle that had 20K miles more than the original. After looking around the lot the second time I didn't even follow him back to the office, I just went straight to my car.

I got this "excellent" service from Tony Sol at Big Bell Kia in Phoenix, AZ.